. >> julia: moving on, president obama is going to meet with the congressional leaders today . one of these meetings "i think lindsay graham saying these are usually dog and pony shows. either you have a deal done meetings that are called in the white house or it is just for show. what do you think? >> kelly: i talked to a bunch of congress people yesterday who said there is a group in the house. republicans in the house that said we can't raise taxes and we shouldn't raise them at all but can't do more than john boehner's plan b, and didn't go to a vote. >> one for million. icle >> it would raise you billion in revenue. they were not for it in the first place but maybe get something through if obama willing to cut. obama administration said if you pass it in the house and september passed it, obama would veto it anyway. they are so far apart. this i am flying back from hawaii and see if i can bring them back together. they are far apart as they have been. >> kelly: why are they having the meeting? because of the talk and rhetoric is ramping up and the agreement is going down.